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| veggeto94 | Oct 10 2010, 07:45 PM Post #1 |
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1. mystic gohan vs vegeta(befoe the potara) i know that u think im crazy and ull tell mystic gohan but vegeta trained a lot in the other world.vegeta wan no match vor buuhan but mystic gohan was no match for buutenks and buhaan is way better than butenks. 2.after the potara vegeta vs mystic gohan. after kid buu raped him but than dende (or the dragon balls i dont remember) heal him he got a power boost so it may be equal? 3.in the end of dbz-after 10 years gohan i think just studied while vegeta probably had 10 year of massive training |
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| Sam | Oct 10 2010, 08:09 PM Post #2 |
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Gohan would definitely beat Vegeta end of Z. Zenkais fade off after everyone reaches Super Saiyan. Only Broly is considered to have gotten a huge zenkai post-Freeza saga, but, that is a non-canon case. Vegeta would be no stronger and only a SSj2, while Ultimate Gohan's power surpasses that of a SSj3 by quite a lot. Vegeta loses. I do not know after ten years, though. That is subject to debate. |
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| + Pyrus | Oct 10 2010, 08:30 PM Post #3 |
 
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Not even 10 years could close the humongous gap between Vegeta and Ultimate Gohan. It's just... too great. Another 5 clearly sets him ahead though. |
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| lunar2 | Oct 10 2010, 09:06 PM Post #4 |
 
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the only one that gives vegeta any chance of victory is the 10 yrs. later. at that time gohan would have lost about 25% of his power and vegeta would be 20-30x stronger so vegeta might have a chance of winning. |
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| + Pyrus | Oct 10 2010, 10:08 PM Post #5 |
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Holy crap. 20-30x stronger? That's an insane boost. |
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| lunar2 | Oct 11 2010, 12:54 AM Post #6 |
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not really considering that the z fighters increased their powers by an average of more than 5x preparing for the saiyan arrival and that was just one year. and this is vegeta we are talking about. the guy who multiplies his power by ten just by taking a nap. Edited by lunar2, Oct 11 2010, 12:55 AM.
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| Nusu | Oct 11 2010, 04:50 AM Post #7 |
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Well, Gohan would stomp Vegeta until the Z-End saga, i think there Vegeta would win. |
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| Fulgore | Oct 11 2010, 04:53 AM Post #8 |
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20-30x stronger? Ridiculous, he'd own vegito at that point.. Gohan would punch his fist through SSj2 Vegeta and end him. |
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| GohanVidel | Oct 11 2010, 04:59 AM Post #9 |
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wow even if vegeta did get a power boost from dying he wouldnt be close to gohan... plus gohan died to so by that logic wouldnt he get the boost? any way gohan could 1 shot ssj3 goku so he could probably blow at vegeta and beat him. no contest |
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I love Gohan and Videl Dragon ball Z Forever "Guardian of the city, I am the one and only...Great Saiyaman!" - Gohan "Fight you? No, I wanna kill you." - Gohan to Super Buu "It will take more than head games to stop me! You may have invaded my mind and my body, but there's one thing a Saiyan always keeps...HIS PRIDE!" - Vegeta "There's no such thing as fair or unfair in battle. There is only victory, or in your case, defeat." - Vegeta "Servant woman, bring me a drying cloth at once!" - Vegeta "I am the hope of the universe. I am the answer to all living things that cry out for peace. I am protector of the innocent. I am the light in the darkness. I am truth. Ally to good! Nightmare to you!" - Goku | |
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| GohanVidel | Oct 11 2010, 05:01 AM Post #10 |
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agreed. trying to put mathematical values on fighters strength was a stupid idea. it worked up to the frieza saga but trying to add power bonuses based on training and power subtraction based on non training is just ridiculous. all it is is speculation.... |
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I love Gohan and Videl Dragon ball Z Forever "Guardian of the city, I am the one and only...Great Saiyaman!" - Gohan "Fight you? No, I wanna kill you." - Gohan to Super Buu "It will take more than head games to stop me! You may have invaded my mind and my body, but there's one thing a Saiyan always keeps...HIS PRIDE!" - Vegeta "There's no such thing as fair or unfair in battle. There is only victory, or in your case, defeat." - Vegeta "Servant woman, bring me a drying cloth at once!" - Vegeta "I am the hope of the universe. I am the answer to all living things that cry out for peace. I am protector of the innocent. I am the light in the darkness. I am truth. Ally to good! Nightmare to you!" - Goku | |
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| lunar2 | Oct 11 2010, 05:33 AM Post #11 |
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those numbers were just guesses of course, if the z fighter multiplied their power by 5 in one year, then by math vegeta would be 50x. those numbers were only to illustrate that over the course of 10 years, vegeta will drasticly increase his power, and gohan will lose significant power. and gv before you jump down my throat over what others say again, im not saying he loses ultimate, just that he's getting soft like between cell and buu. however much power you think he lost before, increase it by half because of the extra three years. and if you dont think you can use math to solve these debates, than you have nothing to debate about except your feelings and opinions. |
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| Ussj Future Trunks | Oct 11 2010, 11:00 AM Post #12 |
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agreed that zenkais just disappear after everyone starts going ssj. gohan rapes vegeta cos gohan > kid buu and kid buu > vegeta |
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| + Pyrus | Oct 11 2010, 02:46 PM Post #13 |
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Yeah, but if Vegeta could get those kinds of boosts anytime he wanted, he'd be around SSj Goku's strength from Namek in just Base, but he stated that Freeza would kill them all, and this is before he even saw Freeza's new body. So clearly he can't be getting that much stronger all the time. And his power compared to Kid Gohan and even Teen Gohan isn't leagues ahead either. |
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| lunar2 | Oct 11 2010, 11:38 PM Post #14 |
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that was only about a year and a half, and i dont doubt that as you get more powerful, it gets harder to challenge your body, and therefore harder to get stronger. but vegeta trains under extreme conditions, and i think that after 10 years, he can pass up a significantly weakened gohan. im noy putting numbers on this, im just saying vegeta gets massive boost over ten years and gohan takes moderate penalty, and i think that the massive catches up to the moderate. even if vegeta cant pass gohan, he can get close enough to win by skill, because no one here is going to debate that vegeta is the more skilled fighter |
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| Nusu | Oct 12 2010, 05:21 AM Post #15 |
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.
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Who knows maybe in the end of Z, Vegeta gained the SSJ 3 transformation, ^^ with the power boost included in his base. Vegeta wins. |
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